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In the pilot, you have Hannah reference her tattoos and explain their origins. Why did you feel the need to include that scene, and are Hannah's reasons your reasons -- that it was a body control thing she did in high school after a weight gain?

That was something Judd [Apatow] suggested. He was like, "Why don't you point them out? This is a character who's a little socially awkward. She's not a super hipster girl, yet she's covered in tattoos. Which is what you are." I sort of tend to equate tattoos with prisoners, punks or people with a high level of self-confidence. I don't necessarily have a covered-in-tattoos personality. So, Judd sort of was like, "Just say something honest about why." So, I wrote that scene and it is pretty close. I don't think I would have phrased it that way to myself at the time. At the time, it was like, "My friend Marina has tattoos, and I'm gonna get one." I sometimes want to make a book of every tattoo I wanted to get before I actually got a tattoo, because there were so many awful ideas and concepts. But once I did it, it got totally addictive. I'd say I had a very active tattooing period from 17 to 21, and since then, I've gotten a few tiny things, but I haven't been tattooed in a while.


What did you think of Lee Aronsohn's comments that television has reached "labia saturation"?

I was talking to Judd about that, and Judd was like, "I feel bad for him because he's just the guy who makes a million jokes." It's such an assholic thing to say. It's so dickish ... I think Sarah Silverman had a quote where she was like, "Sometimes with an old guy with misogyny you're just like, 'You cute old guy. You misogynist.'" I almost feel like that man is holding on desperately to a world that no longer exists ... I felt especially bad for him because it's not even a funny joke. If you had a good quip, I'd be like, "Well, you're a dick, but at least you're a good comedy writer." But with that, I was like, "Come on, dude. 'Labia saturation point'?" It's also so dumb. There's three shows on TV about women, so I guess we really reached our limit. It's not like three-quarters of the world is comprised of women, you idiot.

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